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Posted By : VANKWISH | Comments : 174

Why people do tribute acts....

Although some of them are really good.

My own personal feeling is that I wouldnt do it.
I much preferre being a tribute to 30+ bands.

Its like say an Ozzy trubute, love him and love his music, but its him I want to see, not someone strapping on a wig and wearing round red glasses and a crucifix called Bob...!!

Or Floyd, i may be wrong here coz I'm much to young to remember, but wasn't Floyd all about the show, which tribute acts can afford a trazillion pound light show..

But at the moment, there is a lot of tribute acts on here, so obviously i'm in the minority.....
Or am I....??????

So shoot me down... (Hello John, the tribute guru... Lol)..
Why did you choose to do a trubute?
Who would you like to see as a tribute act?
And who would you be as a tribute act?


# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 03/04/2013, 20:37 (GMT)

i'm not really a fan of tribute bands myself. However I think if you are going to do a tribute act then you should sound like them ( this of course is vocals). Just playing their material isn't enough imho as every good cover band can pull that off. Having a vocal sound alike is a must for me

# Posted by Asa - 03/04/2013, 20:42 (GMT)

I have a confession to make. I actually prefer playing 30+ covers of various artists as opposed to the tribute things. That said, when it's as much fun as it is to play alongside Ben, Josh and Adam; as big a challenge as it is to emulate the beast that is Matt Helders and as popular as it has proved to be so far- it's a difficult proposition to ignore.

And yes, we agree with the whole philosophy of "get it sounding right, or go home". You may as well be just another covers band.

# Posted by Mr Cottonhouse - 03/04/2013, 20:55 (GMT)

Not really my cup of tea however I saw the Backbeat Beatles a few years ago and I understand why they charge so much money. The Australian Floyd CAN afford the trillion pound light show they sell tickets at £35 a chuck....or is it more than that?

These guys are very good also and are looking for a gig tomorrow night (see my earlier blog). They will play for an affordable fee for a pub - they just want to pay for their hotel for the night. A great opportunity for a venue on here although nobody has shown any interest yet. Of course I understand that it is short notice. Even though I don't normally watch tribs.... I would see these in a pub for free admission!

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 03/04/2013, 20:57 (GMT)

Been in 5 different tribute bands up to now. Tributes to Oasis, Robbie Williams, Toto, ELP and currently Genesis and have to say, it beats playing your average NWB top 50 by a country fucking mile.

And unfortunately, 90% of the bands on here are "just another covers band". Unspeakably fucking average, and just as boring.

I'd rather listen to 1 band paying homage to their favourite band, and trying their very best than listen to the same old shite by the same old "play it safe", lazy shite every week.

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 03/04/2013, 21:07 (GMT)

that's cos your a miserable boring old fart Mark lol

# Posted by Keith (RED ZOO) - 03/04/2013, 21:17 (GMT)

Aussie Floyd, are, or should I say were, in a different league, they employ most of the original Floyd road crew and bought most of the lighting rig, however the Aussie guitarist apparently doesn't sing anymore they have a a solo singer...wtf? That's not tribute anymore. Probably why Damien Darlington left to form Brit floyd who supposed to be better. I play in "just another covers band" and fucking love it...each to there own I suppose but I wouldn't call us average...just saying

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 03/04/2013, 21:20 (GMT)

Don't think it's that at all Ian, although you've summed me up perfectly. But if I never hear another band doing Comfortably Numb, Wishing Well, Alright Now and the usual, unspeakable fucking rubbish, it'll be too soon.

Show some gumption, show some imagination, show some creativity, after all isn't that what being a musician is all about?

Same when I used to do the jam nights. Same old fucking rubbish by the same people week in, week out. It becomes more than groundhog day. It becomes soul destroying. And that's what's turned me into a miserable, boring old fart. My soul has been destroyed by countless, extremely average, lazy bastard wannabees, with no imagination, individuality, creativity or flair.

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 03/04/2013, 21:33 (GMT)

That's only because its stuff you don't like Mark. You can't just say players are average because they play music your not keen on or accuse them of lacking creativity or spark because they play covers. Everyone who plays covers including tribute bands because that's all they are doing when all is said and done could be accused of having no creativity because they are not writing material. But most of us have tried doing are own stuff when we were younger. We are playing in cover bands to entertain people and if that means going out playing the same stuff week after week because that's all your average punter wants doesn't make them less of a musician. And playing in a tribute band is basically playing covers but limiting yourself to one artist is it not?

# Posted by Mr Cottonhouse - 03/04/2013, 21:36 (GMT)

Imagination, individuality, creativity or flair....... Are all those things essential to being in a tribute band?

# Posted by Ian AV Engineer - 03/04/2013, 21:48 (GMT)

I wouldnt mind seeing a Doors tribute, has anyone ever tried one on here?

Id even volunteer for the Jim role, now, where did i put me leather kex!!!!!

# Posted by Roj (Black Rose) - 03/04/2013, 22:19 (GMT)

I've been doing the Lizzy stuff for over 11 years and may people have said to me that I sound like Lynott.
I realise that Thin Lizzy is not to every one's taste but as long as people come and listen to us then I'll continue to do the tribute stuff.

# Posted by Andy McCormack - 03/04/2013, 22:38 (GMT)

I personally like the freedom to do whatever song or artist takes my fancy. I can see why people who love a band would get into it though. In a small area without travelling I can see limitations.

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 03/04/2013, 22:39 (GMT)

You're quite wrong there Ian. I used to love all those songs I mentioned but got sick of hearing them butchered by half arsed, half hearted attempts by really average musicians.

Recent blog on here was most annoying band member traits. And top of the list has got to be lazy bastards who don't learn songs. Jam night muso's are the worst for it. Why bother learning Kiss Like Judas when Mustang Sally will do? It's that mentality that's soul destroying. And the reason they don't learn Kiss Like Judas, is because they're lazy, one dimensional, play safe, average wankers who are incapable of playing other than standard 4/4 or anything remotely taxing.

Yet these are the people who will walk into a boozer and tell anyone who'll listen they're the best thing in the north west of England.

The reason I'm playing a Genesis tribute band, is because it's extremely taxing, it's different, and I'm playing loads of different time and key signatures. And I'm actually playing with a group of musicians who pay attention to detail, rather than just winging it or jamming it. In short, not your average lazy fuck muso, who's willing to accept a few beer tokens in exchange for a "couldn't give a fuck" performance.

In fact, for the first time in a good few years, I'm actually giving 100% concentration on what I'm playing rather than falling into the auto pilot routine of the mind numbingly dull "classics". Hardly Sex on Fire or Comfortably Numb.

As an example, Cask'n'Feather recently sacked the jam night. Everybody will have their own personal view on why, but "same old, same old, week in, week out" may have something to do with the decline in punters. That and the failure to strike up a note before half past 10 on a schoolnight might have something to do with it.

Mike, Nick, Duncan and Terry are great blokes and good muso's, but fell into the trap of apathy and habit. And those 2 traits are a muso's worst enemy.

# Posted by Daz (scopyons) - 03/04/2013, 23:08 (GMT)

I was slightly sceptical about tributes until I joined one better venues and better fees its a world of differance. I'm loving it

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 03/04/2013, 23:16 (GMT)

^^ What Grooverman says ^^

# Posted by STONEMAN - 03/04/2013, 23:53 (GMT)

There is a healthy market for tribute acts, so that's why bands are doing it.

Some are really good, some not so good..i think sounding like the group is ultimately the key to success, i don't think people trying to look like the band is all that important, by comparison.

I agree with a few points from both sides of this discussion to be honest, everybody has a different view when it comes down to music.

There's no right or wrong to it, i do enjoy watching tribute bands and i also like to watch original groups too.

# Posted by ROCKING HORSE - 04/04/2013, 00:02 (GMT)

Your not subtle are you Mark, Shame that you have to insult 90% of the musicians on this site. Playing in a tribute band is no more creative or taxing than playing in any covers band if the music is played properly. I have done all kinds of music over the years Jazz, Soul, funk, rock, indie and punk. Some of it is taxing and some isn't. Some I have done on bass and some on guitar.

Some tribute bands seem to have a very high opinion of their own self worth as musicians even insofar as acting like they are in the actual original band as opposed to a cover version.

As if it's more difficult to cover songs by one band than it is to cover songs by many. We all know that's utter bollocks. The majority of tribute bands are nothing more than a lead vocalist with a backing band. Years ago I worked in Mecca bands and we had to learn the top ten every week. We were just given the dots and then we had to play it on a weekend and try and make it sound like the record, that was pretty taxing but certainly not something any decent musician couldn't do.

As for jam night bands they tend to have a repertoire of well known tunes to make it easy for people go get up and jam with them. Who the fuck is gonna go to a jam night and expect to play some 12 minute epic in 6/8? Although I would agree that the start times were ridiculously late. Bands on here who go out for crap money are generally doing something because they enjoy it and they play the songs they like within reason. That doesn't make them bad musicians or lazy bastards

# Posted by Mr Cottonhouse - 04/04/2013, 00:24 (GMT)

Yes, not very community minded although I take his point and agree with many of them. What I would say however is that some people would argue that showing some gumption, imagination and creativity whilst being in a tribute band is actually a contradiction in terms. That is unless you happen to be Hayseed Dixie or The Easystar Allstars or Dread Zepplin ect....

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 04/04/2013, 01:58 (GMT)

Ian, I tried subtle years ago and it never worked. Possibly because half of the people I worked with had their heads so far up their own arses, they never saw the light of day. And as for insulting 90% of musicians on this site, nah, never seen most of them, and judging by their set lists wouldn't want to either.

But earlier blogs suggest it not just me that's pissed off with lazy fuckers. Seems there are quite a few about.

And again, I disagree. Depending on your particular tribute act, it can be a 100 times more taxing than any covers band. For instance, the difference between playing an Oasis or Robbie Williams tribute, is a million miles away from Toto, ELP or Genesis.

ELP's "The Score" or "In the Cage" by Genesis or even "Hydra" by Toto, are musically a country mile away from Sex on Fire, Wonderwall, Wishing Well, Comfortably Numb etc. etc..

And I'm not even the best bass player on my street, let alone this town, but I've always felt, if I don't push myself, I'll forever be just the dum dum man. And that's always been my problem. I WILL learn the songs others want me to play. And where possible, will play them note for note. But when "Mr. I've got the lot" turns out to be "Mr. average, boring twat", it winds me up a bit. Don't forget, I was always expected to learn 2 parts to every song. So it's a little bit galling when others can't be arsed learning their own part. Yet at the end of the night, the money always had to be an even split. So yeah mate, I've had my fucking fill of them type of muso's.

But there have been a couple of blogs on here lately asking for advice about starting an original band or playing originals in their sets, and everybody's saying go for it. But the very fact that they're asking if they can, or should, be "different" or "original", is a sure sign there's something seriously wrong with this environment.

# Posted by Daz (scopyons) - 04/04/2013, 08:05 (GMT)

I'm lovin how hats off to led zep are endorsed by Bolton fm. Should put them in good stead if they want to get on at the phoenix club

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 04/04/2013, 08:59 (GMT)

getting back to the original post on tribute bands. I personally would rather go and see a covers band playing songs by several different artists for the simple reason if you don't like the band the tribute is covering then your fucked. I don't think there is one single band out there that I have ever liked every album from and if there was I would probably be disappointed going to see a cover version of it.

I can't agree on the tribute bands are more taxing than covering several different bands. I have played music in the past in covers bands that is complicated and hard to remember. For example Dream Theatre, Some Pink Floyd material, Rush, Colosseum, Queen, Dire Straits etc the list goes on. Also there is the fact that whilst the bass lines on many rock tunes are ridiculously simple the same is not true of the guitar parts.

a very well known and respected American session musician who has played with Stanley Clark, Jaco Pastorious, Lenny White, Chic Corea and Jean Luc Ponty to name but a few once said to me the most difficult tunes to play with conviction are the simple ones because driving down a straight road its easy to lose focus and concentration

# Posted by James - Metalleeka + AC/DCe - 04/04/2013, 09:24 (GMT)

fans of band entertaining other fans of band while real band cannot entertain fans \m/

ps. made sense when I wrote it...

# Posted by Shotgun Sunday - 04/04/2013, 09:52 (GMT)

been tempted by a few tributes along the way but to be honest I'd get bored. Played two full gigs of Stones stuff with Dose and I'd had enough of it. Thought about doing a Black Crowes tribute (Fat Crowes) but i know that woul dleave me not wanting to even listen to their stuff anymore after a short while.

Can see why people would want to do it but it just wouldn't maintain my interest - better money and bigger venues help with that though I'm sure.

Saw a very good tribute to Led Zep last year - well very good in terms of the sound. The Mr Plant had the tone of the voice spot on but lacked any energy in the performance. Nice wig though.

I also think that with a general covers band you can maintain some identity whereas a tribute seems to be better the more they lose that.

In terms of how much it stretches someone or how lazy they are... that's surely got nothing to do with it being a tribute or covers, just what you choose to cover in each and how you apply yourselves to it.

# Posted by John Wilkinson: - 04/04/2013, 10:09 (GMT)

@ Vankwish

Why do I do it????

Two main reasons:

1: I am a Genesis nutcase. I have to be. Mama is not the cash cow machine that most would think as we all have very high costs keeping the band on the road. We carry our own PA and lighting. Employ people to operate them and spend a fortune on Posters/Flyers/Adverts etc.
Think about your own band. How much percentage wise of the songs you play do you absolutely LOVE playing...50%? 60%? If you are really lucky 70%??? Well I LOVE 100% of what Mama play. How good is that :-) I realise I am very fortunate to be in such a position and would never put down any covers bands for doing what they do. There is a market for them as well.

2: The FANS. Again bringing it back to a covers band situation, we don't have "songs that don't work". Genesis fans start applauding the moment we walk on stage and don't stop until the end of the gig. We get such a buzz playing to people who know and love the music and are so into what we do it's unreal. I expect that this is common to ALL tribute bands no matter who they pay tribute to. The one comment that stands out for me with Genesis is

"Thanks for keeping this great music alive"

That was written by Tony Smith ex Genesis manager and has been echoed by fans all across the UK

As for "The majority of tribute bands are nothing more than a lead vocalist with a backing band", that may be the case for some poor ones but certainly not the case in Mama. A lot of time and effort is required by all the musicians who make up Mama to not only get the correct notes, but the correct SOUNDS to replicate Genesis songs exactly. Which is what a tribute band SHOULD be all about.

Our website has video of us in action to confirm this. Go and compare with the "real thing" ;-)


Best wishes


# Posted by VANKWISH - 04/04/2013, 10:46 (GMT)

some really good arguments on here,

I can understand the differences between covers bands and tribute bands, but still don't get why you would want to be a tribute. I was told a long time ago I sounded like Phil Collins, but that was really because we started our set with Rain Down, I was later told I sounded like Meatloaf... we opened with Bat Out of Hell!!!! go figure!!

I think the reason guys ask on here about doing original stuff is more to promote than ask....

there was one comment on here about hearing sex on fire or Comfortably numb...

does this mean that a tribute band playing these is more acceptable than a covers band doing them?

begs another question....

do tribute bands practice more than covers bands.... do you tribute acts love every song they do?

as a band, we practise once a week. used to be twice when we were just starting up.

I love probably 80% of our set, the others I like... but still give 100% singing them.

I know you have to love the band to tribute them..

I love Journey, Ozzy and Marillion... do I love every one of there songs.. nope. there some fekking awful ones. so the drummer wants to do one I don't like so much..... do we do it?????

there's a Marillion tribute band out there that only does Fish era.... only liked a couple or those, I'm a massive Steve Hogarth Marillion fan... would I go watch a fish era tribute... nope.


as a tribute bands, do you pick the songs you like,,,, or just any???

@james... good point, I think I know what you mean.. ;lol

but do you or would you cover a song from St Anger????? lol.....


# Posted by John Wilkinson: - 04/04/2013, 11:02 (GMT)

@ Vankwish

Mama pick the songs the fans want to hear. Obviously we listen and engage with our fans and their opinions matter.

In Mama we rehearse as often as possible and not enough as we would like to.

Best wishes


# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 04/04/2013, 11:22 (GMT)

Your post is a lot fresher and less denigrating than Mark's John, but then again having spent time in his company as well as played with him that doesn't surprise me, he would moan and complain about the amount if he won the lottery lol

I would still stick to my point about the majority of tribute bands being about the singer. I understand about the other musicians having to recreate the style and sound of the original artist but I try to do that with every song I do in covers band so I don't see any difference there to be honest. I do see a lot of bands who play the songs but just stick to one sound all the way through 30 numbers by different artists, and that does bore the pants off me. However, put a band of 4 really good musicians together and you have a great band of musicians. Without a sound alike that's all they are.

I understand some tribute bands such as Mama do it out of love for the artist concerned but I do also think that as the tribute scene has become so big and convoluted over the past few years, more and more musicians are doing it for the cash. Many players I know that have spent most of their lives playing in function/club/wedding bands are now playing in tribute bands which say's a lot to me about the reason they are doing it

# Posted by John Wilkinson: - 04/04/2013, 11:48 (GMT)


You are more than likely right sir about the cash element of musicians going for the big bucks but not all tribute bands are equal.

Abba, The Beatles, Led Zep, Queen, Pink Floyd tributes seem to be in the hundreds and very popular.

Most of the rest play to a select audience of fans.

Mama are in the second lot....for now.

I was in a covers band for many years before I ventured into Tribute Band world ;-)

I know how hard they work and I also know that there are good, bad and quite frankly shocking ones.......Exactly the same as tribute bands ;-)

Best wishes and hope we can meet over a beer someday


# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 04/04/2013, 12:20 (GMT)

that's all I am trying to say John.

There is obviously a massive market for both tribute and eclectic cover bands.

I just don't like people assuming that just because a cover band decides to play well known classic tunes which quite frankly are overplayed but are still what people want to here. No matter what Mark thinks about bands trying harder and playing obscure album tracks it just doesn't work in pubs and clubs its that simple.

Even tribute bands have to play the well known singles alongside the album tracks. I have seen a few tribute bands and I have never yet come across one where the audience doesn't call for the most famous tracks by that particular artist.

I have done various things in my past including playing in original bands and writing all my own material to being on the cusp of record deal 3 times. In fact I was stupid enough to turn one down once because the company wanted a couple of members of the band replaced. One was a development deal that was never followed through and the other one they changed their mind.

However I am 51 now and don't feel the need to push my own music anymore. So to be told we are (and I would count us as being in the 90% of bands on here) extremely average, lazy bastard wannabees, with no imagination, individuality, creativity or flair by someone who also plays covers albeit in a tribute band I find to be quite laughable

Yeah be nice to have a pint sometime John, I'll bring my dog and Mark can bring his dog stick lol

# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 04/04/2013, 12:56 (GMT)

Ive only seen 3 tribute bands worth remembering. The Bootleg Beatles, Counterfeit Stones, and The Beached Boys. They really made the effort to look and sound like em.

The Beached Boys were at the Liverpool music fest a couple of years ago, they played the entire 'Pet Sounds' album live.I loved it but it went right over most of the punters heads, who wanted 'California Girls' and 'Surfin USA' But they stuck to their guns and were fkn brilliant.

If your not prepared to go the whole hog...don't bother.


# Posted by John Wilkinson: - 04/04/2013, 13:27 (GMT)

Ian.... Will try and get to a gig of yours soon matey :-)

Best wishes


# Posted by Carillon Video - 04/04/2013, 13:29 (GMT)

Like all bands, you give the audience what they want. It helps if you want that too.

The Tribfest 2012 crowd was an entirely different bunch of people to a typical Moses Gate crowd. Therefore, the Tribfest crowd got the better known numbers and the Moses Gate crowd get the hard core Genesis stuff.

Like all businesses, everything is a compromise. Do Tesco want to sell carrier bags? Probably not. Do they have to, in order to secure repeat customers? Yes. They recently changed their carrier bags to a more biodegradable type which are not as strong. Why? Because the customer perception is that the UK has a waste carrier bag issue. Does it? No.

Any band, whether it's original, a covers band or a tribute band, caters to their audience. It's the audience that differs.

A Genesis tribute band pulls a Genesis audience. We perform hardcore or softcore or a mixture, depending on that crowd. Many factors influence that crowd, such as time on stage, venue, area of the UK, whether it's our first time in that venue or whether we have played there loads.

An original band attracts fans of that music. They play their own music to cater to the fans. As their music changes over time, their fans will drift away and new fans will discover them. The audience changes. The band changes.

Cover bands want to entertain pubs. Their crowd is highly variable. They play many different types and styles of music to cater for them. If they don't, the crowd leave and the landlord doesn't book them again.

It's the audience that changes, not the band.

# Posted by Scottyboy Black Rose - 04/04/2013, 13:48 (GMT)


There is some utter shit being spouted on this thread! I've said it before, and I will say it again right now. As long as YOU (the band members) are enjoying what you do, and people are coming watching you. Then no one, be it on this site or in the pub/club/venue wherever the hell it is you're playing has any right whatsoever to criticise you for it!

Be a covers band, be a tribute band, do whatever it is that you enjoy doing, if you're pleasing yourself it will show, therefor the audience will enjoy it too! As for everyone else...FUCK EM, if they don't like it they don't have to come and watch you...plenty of others will!!!

Rant over


# Posted by Scottyboy Black Rose - 04/04/2013, 14:15 (GMT)

P.S. not aimed at the OP at all, I'm sure there a plenty of people of the same opinion, and a healthy debate is fine...just some downright offensive shit being thrown about in subsequent comments that has pissed me off...

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 04/04/2013, 14:21 (GMT)

well any reaction is better than none :-)

# Posted by Willow (of somebig™Fish) (Reti... - 04/04/2013, 14:38 (GMT)

Some say whisky slows you down and clouds up your thinking
As long as they make whisky I'll keep on drinking
As long as life keeps hittin hard, a drink will help you to take it
And long as we drink whisky, they'll continue to make it



# Posted by John Wilkinson: - 04/04/2013, 14:42 (GMT)

Good call Willow.

Willow for PM ;-)

Scott. Hope you didn't mean me either ;-)

Best wishes


# Posted by Scottyboy Black Rose - 04/04/2013, 14:55 (GMT)

Definitely not John, you never talk anything but sense! :-)

# Posted by VANKWISH - 04/04/2013, 15:24 (GMT)

have to agree Scott, some strange rants, but hey, you gotta get it off ya chest, and what better place than amongst friends..

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, not at all. if there's music playing, who cares, as long as the standards good....

although, did someone mention a Robbie f'king Williams tribute!!!!!! really...

that's just takin fekking liberty's!!!!!

@ willow...

it's all about the hops mate.... ;)

John... Scott said genesis are poo, and you should try a rock band...........lol


# Posted by [mark] Into The Void - 04/04/2013, 15:38 (GMT)

.....so is everybody friends again now then??? ..... except 4mostwanted obviously, he is, and remains, resident grumpychops! :o)

Can we get back to the bigger debate now? ...... price fixing across the north west...... again!

# Posted by ROCKING HORSE - 04/04/2013, 16:10 (GMT)

healthy debate, that's what this site is all about. Its what blows the cobwebs of bordom away. Apart from 4mostwanted I don't think anyone made any disparaging remarks anyway. :-)

# Posted by GEORGIA BROWNS - 04/04/2013, 16:20 (GMT)

@Mark (LA80) r.e. Price fixing - I reckon £100.00 Tops

BTW Do you like my new outfit.




# Posted by John Wilkinson: - 04/04/2013, 16:21 (GMT)

@ Vankwish....Tell Scott I said Thin Lizzy are......erm actually brilliant really.....

Damn !!!!! Not a good comeback there ;-)

Best wishes


# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 04/04/2013, 16:25 (GMT)

For Mark, his ideal set list LMAO

Set One

Alright Now
Comfortably Numb
Mustang Sally
Enter Sandman
Smoke on the Water
Don't believe a word
Sex on Fire
Teenage Kicks

Set Two

Summer of 69
Whole Lotta Rosie
Wishing Well
Highway to Hell
Play that funky music
Gimmie some lovin
Hard to Handle
You really got me
Black Magic Woman
Brown Eyed Girl
Basket Case
Stairway to Heaven

encore of two paracetamol and a free taxi home lol

# Posted by Asa - 04/04/2013, 16:28 (GMT)

Encore: I predict a riot

# Posted by Asa - 04/04/2013, 16:29 (GMT)

@Georgia Browns - We'll do it for £99 ;o)

# Posted by GEORGIA BROWNS - 04/04/2013, 16:34 (GMT)

As the NWB set list chart indicates Sex on fire and the like are the most popular songs in the NW. Now then call me naive but if people did not want to hear them then why do they keep turning out to hear the bands playing them?



# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 04/04/2013, 16:44 (GMT)

very true Gary, as I said in another blog we are paid to entertain them not educate them

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 04/04/2013, 16:46 (GMT)

I have always been of the opinion (and I include myself in this as I have been playing covers for years), that Covers bands who are paid a fee to entertain the public are nothing but a glorified Disco with instruments

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 04/04/2013, 16:48 (GMT)

Actually it doesn't really indicate that they are the most popular songs, merely that they are the most covered by bands. However that generally is because they are popular I suppose

# Posted by T CLOTH - 04/04/2013, 16:54 (GMT)

Ian - last time 4most came to the Cask he played most of those songs!

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 04/04/2013, 16:57 (GMT)

in actual fact Nick I seem to remember him asking if we could do comfortably numb because he had never played it before lol

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 04/04/2013, 17:04 (GMT)

@Ian - that's half of what I did with you and half of Mothers Ruins set list.

The entire reason I retired from gigging - totally soul destroyed!

Definitely nothing there that would blow the cobwebs of boredom away. I would rather circumcise myself with a rusty tin lid or listen to an evening of Black Lace than hear any of that lot.

Thank Christ for people like John Wilkinson who rescued me from the bland, mundane, boring and completely mind numbingly dull shite listed above.

And you forgot Can't Get Enough and Sweet Home Alabama.

So you still playing them then?

# Posted by Carillon Video - 04/04/2013, 17:07 (GMT)

What's wrong with Black Lace?

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 04/04/2013, 17:07 (GMT)

yep in fact I am thinking of recording them all on a compilation album and sending it you for Christmas :-p

# Posted by GEORGIA BROWNS - 04/04/2013, 17:10 (GMT)

Mark (4most) - Maybe you could combine both tribs and go out as Black Face Value :-))

Sorry JW - Could'nt resist


# Posted by 4most Wanted - 04/04/2013, 17:12 (GMT)

@T Cloth - Nick, that's because you asked me to dep. So as a personal favour to you and Terry, I said I'd do it. Apart from that, I really enjoyed playing with Duncan and Mike who are a step above the average shite I used to play with.

And anyway, what other songs did anyone know?

# Posted by T CLOTH - 04/04/2013, 17:15 (GMT)

Ha ha!!! Anyone interested in forming a Black Lace tribute band?

# Posted by T CLOTH - 04/04/2013, 17:16 (GMT)

I`m looking for something new since I had to give up yhe Rolf Harris tribute.

# Posted by T CLOTH - 04/04/2013, 17:20 (GMT)

You`ve hit the nail on the head Mark. What other songs does everyone know?

It is groundhog (or Whatever) dayish but most pub rockers do have a pretty limlted repertoire in my experience. It goes with the territory I`m afraid.

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 04/04/2013, 17:51 (GMT)

@Gary - You'd never get away with using a name like that Gary!!

God forbid, anyone should be able to use the words "Black" and "Face" in a sentence in this fucking politically correct arsehole country, and get away with it!

# Posted by skp scott - 04/04/2013, 18:37 (GMT)

I'm "Average Shit" and proud.lol

mad blog


# Posted by Dave Trent - 04/04/2013, 18:40 (GMT)

@skp scott - don't worry your not alone

# Posted by Gaz - Magrathea - SheRox - 04/04/2013, 18:52 (GMT)

Gonna form a Baron Knights Tribute.

# Posted by GEORGIA BROWNS - 04/04/2013, 18:55 (GMT)

Can I be in it Iv'e got a Knight's suit (See above)


# Posted by GEORGIA BROWNS - 04/04/2013, 19:01 (GMT)

As long as your "Average Shit" punter keeps coming in to my "Average Shit" venue to listen to the
"Average Shit" music that the "Average Shit" band keeps inflicting on them - Then I shall continue to be one of the "Average Shit" Landlords that keeps booking all this "Average Shit". And by the way I like the music that the bands play here so I don't really give an "Average Shit"


# Posted by VANKWISH - 04/04/2013, 19:06 (GMT)


Georgia Browns....

Funny as fook...

Wanna a book another average shit band...
We play average shit music too...!!!

# Posted by Jeepster Gaz ( RailerMania ) - 04/04/2013, 19:15 (GMT)

arf arf arf arf arf !

Hilarious !

# Posted by The Reform - 04/04/2013, 19:22 (GMT)

Gary @ Georgia Browns for PM - VOTE NOW

This last post is by far the best so far - Top man !

# Posted by T CLOTH - 04/04/2013, 19:26 (GMT)

New tribute act : `The Average Shite Band.`

# Posted by Itchy Chipmunk - 04/04/2013, 19:28 (GMT)

why did my post get deleted ?
it wasn't nowhere near as offensive as marks....

# Posted by Itchy Chipmunk - 04/04/2013, 19:40 (GMT)

Phil Collins is shit , Genesis are shit ..
Them cheesy old porno casio keyboard solos are shit ... IMO of course
I wud rather stick pins in my eyes than watch the originals never mind a tribute !

being in a tribute you are more tied to play the same shit week in week out.
Loads of trib bands on ere are excellent , but come on , u must get bored because of the limitations of material you get to play ?

gimme a covers band any day, they play who they want, and what songs they want , in various ways....without boring the punters wi the same shit all night.

The limitiations are involved in tribute bands(to be like the bnd ) ..NOT cover bands.

# Posted by Fanny Oakley - 04/04/2013, 19:44 (GMT)

Hurrah for itchy

and Gary... I expect to see you in that suit next time we come to play our average set at your average venue with our average gear and average skills as musicians - oh I fgot, we cant be classed as musicians if we don't play tunes stray away from 4/4... oh well - better crack on with my average life then :-)

# Posted by Jeepster Gaz ( RailerMania ) - 04/04/2013, 19:45 (GMT)

I was in a U2 tribute band for 7 years and it did my box in because Im not even into U2. what an idiot I was.

I must admit though, I do like tribute bands but much prefer covers bands.

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 04/04/2013, 19:57 (GMT)

So a band or artist selling out stadiums and with total record sales into the millions are shit eh?

So I suppose Oasis are shit, and Pink Floyd or maybe Queen even?

Of course all of these people will not be desperately begging for a £30 gig this weekend in front of a load of pissed up ignorant punters, who are charlied off their heads or stood in doorways smoking whilst trying to get their gear out into their wonderful little Nissan Micra's.

You absolute fucking moron. Who's shit now?

And you wonder why I say the things I do.

# Posted by Itchy Chipmunk - 04/04/2013, 20:16 (GMT)

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 04/04/2013, 19:57 (GMT)

So a band or artist selling out stadiums and with total record sales into the millions are shit eh?

So I suppose Oasis are shit, and Pink Floyd or maybe Queen even?

Of course all of these people will not be desperately begging for a £30 gig this weekend in front of a load of pissed up ignorant punters, who are charlied off their heads or stood in doorways smoking whilst trying to get their gear out into their wonderful little Nissan Micra's.

You absolute fucking moron. Who's shit now?

And you wonder why I say the things I do.

Do you feel big and clever now ?

ARE YOU FOR REAL ... we cant have opinions without getting personally attacked ?
I said IMO genesis are shit ... so I am a "fucking moron" ?
the post was aimed at no one , it was just my opinion ,
I could go into some childish name calling myself ,,but I left school a long time ago .

FWIW I like queen , and Floyd .....

yours peacefully

an itchy fukkin genesis hating moron

# Posted by Dave Trent - 04/04/2013, 20:24 (GMT)

You absolute fucking moron. Who's shit now? Well obviously you are you arrogant fuckwit. The man said IMO which he is certainly entitled to without fear of being abused on here

# Posted by Itchy Chipmunk - 04/04/2013, 20:25 (GMT)

and THANK YOU dave ...some sense at last .

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 04/04/2013, 20:41 (GMT)

why does it always come down to name calling. Can't everyone just accept everyone's personal opinion without resorting to this rubbish? It's no wonder so many people have stopped posting on here.

# Posted by Fanny Oakley - 04/04/2013, 20:41 (GMT)

"Thank Christ for people like John Wilkinson who rescued me from the bland, mundane, boring and completely mind numbingly dull shite listed above" (4most)

Tribute or covers?... albeit tribute bands DO play covers... we all work for the same outcome - to entertain an audience whether they be fans of a specific group/genre or just out to appreciate live music in general.

As quoted by your saviour -

"Mama pick the songs the fans want to hear." (JW)...

hallelujah as do most other bands (tribute or not)!!

Generally venues book bands because we entertain their punters, they like what the bands play, the venues know what their punters want to hear - or else the management wouldn't keep booking them back.

Doesn't matter if its pubs you play or Wembley stadium - every single member on here does what they do because its what THEY WANT to do, and they take it as far as they want to.
You have no right to come on here being so judgemental and spouting off about how average everyone is unless of course you have had the privilege of seeing every single band on this site - which I doubt very much so until that day id like to refer your attention to Rule number one about membership on here - BE NICE!

I for one would never go to watch the majority of tribute bands on here because I cannot honestly say that ive liked every song of any artist/band out there so why would I pay to be bored out of my mind listening to crap I don't like apart from the occasional song I can relate to? This is why covers bands work for me - I can have my cake and eat it metaphorically speaking of course!

I PERSONALLY think Phil Collins was one of the most over rated drummers of all time and didn't like the way he sang - does that make me ignorant?
No - its just my OPINION because living in this free country I have a right to my opinion and also, as an 'average' musician I can actually admire and appreciate the success of a band even if they aren't necessarily my cup of tea... wouldn't do us all to like the same stuff - which is why this site is such an invaluable piece of kit for so many venues, MUSICIANS and punters alike out there - its got something for everyone - peace!

# Posted by The Reform - 04/04/2013, 20:49 (GMT)

Guys, Guys, Guys ... Come on lets all bow down to this superior being...

Firstly, I just have to ask questions starting with... WHY ?

Why on earth are you on this site ? Surely as a Major Tribute band you don't need to be looking on here for gigs at all of these "Average Pubs"

Why on earth would you slate so many Venues & "Fellow Musicians"(Although, that maybe alien to you I guess...)
Why have you even registered on this site ?
Why so Abusive?
Why do you believe being in a Tribute band is superior to a General Covers Band?
( We are all one and the same - Except you Cover 1 Artist (Yes, Just the ONE!) and we cover around 30!)

# Posted by Mark L - 04/04/2013, 21:30 (GMT)

We shouldn't be fighting each other

We should be fighting the common enemy:


# Posted by Graham - Mustard - 04/04/2013, 21:49 (GMT)

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 04/04/2013, 20:41 (GMT)
why does it always come down to name calling. Can't everyone just accept everyone's personal opinion without resorting to this rubbish? It's no wonder so many people have stopped posting on here.


There really are some pretentious wankers on this site

# Posted by Fanny Oakley - 04/04/2013, 21:58 (GMT)

i was gonna add that comments like 4mosts probably wouldnt do his band ANY favours -just a thought...

# Posted by Graham - Mustard - 04/04/2013, 22:07 (GMT)

Indeed SKP,

Shame really as John W comes across as a thoroughly decent chap

# Posted by Asa - 04/04/2013, 22:15 (GMT)

Oh hai. Did someone say pretentious wanker? Lol

What a bun fight this has turned into. Grown men turning to childish insults over subjective opinions. Have a word eh.

I bet John is hiding behind his sofa right now. Shame cos he's a top bloke.

# Posted by UkePunk - 04/04/2013, 23:31 (GMT)

Im looking at getting a Barron Knights tribute band going, anyone interested?

I haven't got the chin for Russ Abbott meself but there's a few cheeky pokey out chins on here that might be able to pull it off.

Or maybe not

# Posted by Gaz - Magrathea - SheRox - 04/04/2013, 23:41 (GMT)


Scroll up you nicked my idea, baggsie being the short fat one with the blonde curly hair.

Then again,

Think I'll just play 'Jazz Odessey' for 90 mins.

# Posted by Ian AV Engineer - 04/04/2013, 23:47 (GMT)

hahaha didnt realise this blog had gone on so far.

Saying nowt.

# Posted by Gary Bill - bass - 04/04/2013, 23:51 (GMT)

My 3 year old son has just started nursery

The firs rule of nursery club is: if you can't play nice, don't play at all......

........4most, you start next week.....get a grown to drop you off!!!!!!!

# Posted by Tex's bassbitch - 04/04/2013, 23:51 (GMT)

This site is completely fukked.

# Posted by Roberto, fretboard polisher - 05/04/2013, 00:03 (GMT)

A predictable end to an interesting discussion. ;0(

# Posted by UkePunk - 05/04/2013, 00:08 (GMT)

Scroll up you nicked my idea, baggsie being the short fat one with the blonde curly hair.
Then again,
Think I'll just play 'Jazz Odessey' for 90 mins"

Whoops, great minds etc.

# Posted by Tex's bassbitch - 05/04/2013, 00:08 (GMT)


# Posted by UkePunk - 05/04/2013, 00:08 (GMT)

Or simple minds..

This site was fucked a long long time ago

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 05/04/2013, 00:18 (GMT)

So everybody is entitled to their own opinions eh? Except where I dare to state there's some really average shite on this site.

Let me draw your attention to a post in the "Community Gold" section of this site. Posted by Gary from Last Gang in Town with the heading "It's official... you're boring"

Here's just some selected comments cut and pasted:

Well said LGIT..................... :) Lee – The Kasuals

that gets my thumbs up Gaz & whats also shite about these bands is theyve never even seen the bands they cover Live, so they havent a clue about performance. Yeh, damm boring fuckers i agree .if u cant put on a show ,then stay @ your day job and give the Landlord and punters a fuckin break;;;;;Bozz, - Glam69

This is a point Ive mentioned to many musicians here. I looked at the set lists of bands when I came here and to be honest it was the bands who were doing something different which tend to dictate the acts I will usually go to see.
Pink Floyd ! how many acts are doing Uncomfortably Dumb? again there is a massive Floyd set of numbers which bands could dip into. Summer of 69????? dont get me started! Tony- Vocalist

All the above is spot on, have to say thou I don’t mind the samey samey set-list bands stuck in a cycle of songs they cant get out off, its healthy and positive for the rest of us. Makes us stand out when we put in something original or different. – 4 strings

Lets not forget, the Pistols were grateful for the Brotherhood of Man , if the music scene at the time wasn’t so shite, could they have really stood out so well? - 4 strings

preaching to the converted gary....if i had my way we would be even more obscure to be honest.... – Mark (LA80)

I think sometimes it's an easy choice to go for songs you know and are comfortable playing, but you have to challenge yourself as well – Cjay

and another thing its wonderful to hear something different, not necessarily obscure JUST DIFFERENT! – Rob Redfern (Black Rose)

Great blog gary ,if i go & watch a band & its one of those same old then its fag break time ,i can always tell when ive seen one of those bands as i wake up with a bad cough & my asthma plays up .
Gotta admit its always refreshing to hear a set with a few new numbers in ,saves me a fortune in fags & the landlords happy as i"ll spend more money on his ale . – Andy (The Stories)

literally gazillions of well known awesome music tracks out there, just play something else! - Rob Redfern (Black Rose)

in the same way 'best friends' tell Fat,Ugly brides 'you look beautiful !!!',,, - The Cottonhouse Shakers
but for every good band there are are a few not so good ones murdering these songs thinking they are wonderful cos their mates clap...
I think it was yesterday there was a blog about a 'new' band...I looked at their set list...Summer of 69, Sanctuary, Sweet Child Of Mine, Sweet Home Alabama.....NEW!!!!!!!!!!! - Gary (LGIT)

So it's not just me then? And as Cottonhouse points out, I’m not about to tell a fat, ugly bride, she’s beautiful. And there are some bands on here that think they’re slim, beautiful brides whereas in reality, they are that fat ugly fucker. But since they surround themselves with sycophants, they will never hear anything different.

I never said I was better than anyone else. That was half of you reading it completely wrong and your instant knee jerk reactions to those who tell you different from the sycophants you surround yourselves with. I was saying I tried something different and it worked for me. I tried something different from the mundane norm, and it worked for me. But at least I fucking tried. Something you brain dead fuckwits will never understand.

# Posted by Roberto, fretboard polisher - 05/04/2013, 00:24 (GMT)

I often repeat myself haha, yeah there's just so many tracks by bands that are nearly as well known as the main ones!

One thing that I often think is that punters know a lot more than we assume, a lot of us, me included are guilty of this, plenty of music lovers out there that really know their stuff and don't play instruments
Who are we to know what albums people have stacked up?

# Posted by Gary Bill - bass - 05/04/2013, 00:28 (GMT)

I don't think it may be the context of what you are saying but what phrases you are using I.e. As above 'fuckwit', really?? Just coz they play something that is on a list of 50 songs they are a fuckwit???

Get a grip, or people will stop listening to you

# Posted by Fanny Oakley - 05/04/2013, 00:29 (GMT)

there you go again with your assumptions - how do you know what any of us have done or not done on here?
been there done it worn the tshirt - quite happy seeing smiley faces at the end of my average pub gig thanks - there I even managed that comment without a single swear word - how fantastically average am I? marvellous!
most people that know me on here (and theres a few) know that im fairly laid back but you my friend have got right on my paps so with that I bid you goodnight

# Posted by The Reform - 05/04/2013, 00:33 (GMT)

I think it was this particular rant that got everyone's back up old bean..

" 90% the people on here are... lazy, one dimensional, play safe, average wankers who are incapable of playing other than standard 4/4 or anything remotely taxing."

that an other stuff similar to how you ended your last post " Something you brain dead fuckwits will never understand."

calling people "average" is not the end of the world is it.. but why add Wankers or other such insulting words ?? - Was there really a need for that ??

I have seen some later comments from you of which are very acceptable... but some just downright insulting and out of order to be honest

but hey ho, it's brightened up my usual boring Thursday night learning boring average covers for this weeks gigs..


# Posted by Gary Bill - bass - 05/04/2013, 00:34 (GMT)

Haha paps........

# Posted by Fanny Oakley - 05/04/2013, 00:35 (GMT)

well gary I didn't want to swear now did I pmsl x

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 05/04/2013, 00:36 (GMT)

I'm one of that 90% Mark, although I never really considered myself a brain dead fuckwit. I personally like playing the songs we do otherwise I wouldn't play them. Does that make me an extremely average, lazy bastard wannabee, with no imagination, individuality, creativity or flair because I don't share your opinion on music? Surely there are much nicer ways of stating your opinion than generalising about hundreds of musicians the vast majority of which you have never met

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 05/04/2013, 00:46 (GMT)

Like I say though peeps, I'm not about to tell a fat, ugly bride she looks beautiful..................

@Best of Foo - not me that originated the term "fuckwit". That would be Dave Trent. And to reiterate his comment - "The man said IMO which he is certainly entitled to without fear of being abused on here".

If only it worked both ways..............

# Posted by Gary Bill - bass - 05/04/2013, 00:52 (GMT)

I don't care who said it first, the point being don't say it!!!!!!!!

IMO,.........no, I don't want to stoop to your level and swear where its not needed,I'm so angry now. Can't believe this site has come to this, and I know I'm fueling the flames by repsonding.

Very annoyed!!!!

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 05/04/2013, 00:54 (GMT)

Yes Ian, dare I say it? You are an extremely talented guitarist, playing decidedly average songs. Therefore batting well below your average. Whether it's laziness or apathy, or the fact that you've just settled into your "comfortably numb" zone, but either way, what I saw of you is way below what I'd come to expect of you. You are better than that, and it's that kind of indifference that really winds me up.

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 05/04/2013, 00:57 (GMT)

Stating an opinion is not the same as calling them brain dead fuckwits, extremely average, lazy bastard wannabees, with no imagination, individuality, creativity or flair & one dimensional, play safe, average wankers who are incapable of playing other than standard 4/4 or anything remotely taxing.
. I would say that is more personal insult

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 05/04/2013, 00:58 (GMT)

@Best of Foo - which part of "The man said IMO which he is certainly entitled to without fear of being abused on here" - do you not understand?

Am I also not entitled to my opinion without fear of being abused? Or is that privelege reserved for those who only say nice things?

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 05/04/2013, 01:06 (GMT)

See that's where your making a mistake Mark, I like playing the tunes I do not because I can't be arsed learning out of the ball park stuff but because its the music I like. I have forgotten far more tunes than i remember over the years just like anybody else. I don't believe my personal choice of material should lead to me being insulted. I wouldn't dream of coming on here and insulting you either as a musician or as a person.

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 05/04/2013, 01:07 (GMT)

@Ian - but that's the instant knee jerk reaction of most of the people on this site! You call somebody a wanker and they all start getting paranoid thinking "This cunt's slagging me off" then go all defensive.

I am not the only person on this site that thinks there's some extremely average rubbish on here. As I've said before, there's some extremely talented musicians on here, much more talented than I could ever hope to be, playing absolute rubbish, week in, week out. And I personally think it's a crying shame, that somebody so gifted should sometimes stoop so low.

I have to work twice as hard to be half as good as some of the people on here, but I do it. I put the hours in. I dare to be different and challenge the mindsets of others. And I'm vilified for it.

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 05/04/2013, 01:24 (GMT)

of course you are Mark because no one is going to sit there and be insulted without standing their corner are they?

And your opinion of these tunes as average rubbish doesn't make them such. Not everybody like's Genesis, Yes and ELP. Mark. I agree there probably are some shite bands on here, some average ones which I suppose you could categorize ourselves as and some excellent ones. Calling people wankers etc is not really the way to get your opinion across about what music you consider interesting or boring. When I am playing bass I find it extremely boring playing rock music, and when I am playing guitar which is rare these days I prefer rock music. And learning a long intricate solo from a song is just a difficult as learning a bass line from a prog rock song

And not that it really matters but apart from one album which I like a lot, Gensis bore the pants off me as do Yes, ELP and most other prog rock bands

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 05/04/2013, 01:39 (GMT)

But getting back to the original blog Ian - "Never really understood why people do tribute acts", and my opinion, and ONLY MY OPINION, was that, after doing both covers and tributes, I've had infinitely more fun playing in tribute bands. The audiences are different, the venues are different, and the cash is certainly different.

And to quote you, "When I am playing bass I find it extremely boring playing rock music". Ian, really, how dare you suggest that anybody playing rock music is extremely boring! So now even you are saying playing rock bass is boring. See what I'm getting at?

So yes, I get infinitely more satisfaction from playing in tribute bands than playing boring bass lines to boring rock music. So I moved on.

# Posted by GEORGIA BROWNS - 05/04/2013, 01:54 (GMT)

So you get more satisfaction - Good for you. Maybe Just maybe the people who play the average shite (your opinion) get as much satisfaction from playing said shiteto packed pubs every week. as you do from playing your particular choice of music. Does that make them lazy, one dimensional, play safe, average wankers. No - It makes them people who enjoy what they do, Just as playing your favoured music allows you to enjoy what you do. - Now be a good little boy and go to bed and dream about playing in a covers band:-))

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 05/04/2013, 02:01 (GMT)

no Mark I said I find it extremely boring playing rock music on the bass

I never suggested that anybody playing rock music is extremely boring! . There is a world of difference.

I am also not saying that playing rock music on the bass is boring either,
Just to be clear I am saying it bores "me"

Don't put virtual words in my mouth Mark ;-)

# Posted by GEORGIA BROWNS - 05/04/2013, 02:05 (GMT)

@45's Thats it - Crispins on his way round. HE KNOWS WHERE YOU LIVE

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 05/04/2013, 02:07 (GMT)

@ Georgia Browns - it's patronising, condescending twats like yourself, that made me move away from the pub scene. You think you know it all, just because you think you're doing bands a favour by letting them play in your pub.

And whilst you profess to doing what you can to "help the NW music scene", the reality is, you're just a landlord who sees pound signs in his eyes hoping the bands you book will fill your pub.

So how about you being a good little boy, and go to bed and dream about being a proper fucking landlord?

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 05/04/2013, 02:07 (GMT)

Morrissey? wasn't he in Boon?

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 05/04/2013, 02:09 (GMT)

its like a good book this you just can't put it down

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 05/04/2013, 02:11 (GMT)

And Ian, it also bored me...........

So if you think playing rock bass is boring, how do you think other bass players feel? Some will no doubt be quite happy to plod along, but others will want to do something different. But how many times have you as a guitarist considered what the bass player wants to play?

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 05/04/2013, 02:25 (GMT)

I consider it all the time Mark, I am the kind of player that listens to what everyone else is playing. To be fair not all rock bass players plod along do they? John Entwistle, Flea, Steve Harris, their bass lines can hardly be described as plod along can they. However I do play bass in my band all the time now and I enjoy playing songs. They don't have to be musically taxing to be good songs, if that was the case I would be playing in jazz rock band

# Posted by GEORGIA BROWNS - 05/04/2013, 02:27 (GMT)

@4skin For your information it makes no difference to me whether my pub is full or not - it makes no difference whether i take £200 or £2000 on a Saturday night. I am on wage - I get paid whatever happens. I do what I do because whatever I do I like to do it well, however mundane it may be (Unlike you) I put live bands on because I love live music - I could halve the expense of live bands and put Karaoke on and the pub would be just as busy. Through live music I have met and befriended many many very nice people and a lot of them have become firm friends because in the main they are nice down to earth people who just enjoy what they are doing and like to see others enjoying themselves. They do not try to inflict their views on others (unlike some) and are quite happy doing what they do. So therefore if you want to see a patronising condescending egotistical self righteous Twat have a walk in the bathroom and take a good long look in your mirror.



# Posted by 4most Wanted - 05/04/2013, 02:39 (GMT)

Ian, you're missing the point. How many bass players in NWB land are playing songs by John Entwistle, Flea and Steve Harris? Or conversely, how many bassists are playing songs that AREN'T decided by the guitarist or vocalist?

So a guitarist wants to play Gimme All Your Loving by ZZ Top. Fucking great for the guitarist (I suppose, I dunno), but poor bass player stands there like a spare prick at a wedding. God forbid the bass player should go off the beaten track and play something different than the constant plodding in C.

So bass player agrees, but then suggests It's My Life by Talk Talk or Rio by Duran Duran or anything remotely interesting for the bassist, only to be met with a chorus of disapproval with such gems as "not well known enough", "not our type of music" or "No keyboards". In other words, "Can't be arsed learning something I don't already know".

These are all instances of what I've experienced, hence my jibes about being "lazy" or "unimaginative".

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 05/04/2013, 02:50 (GMT)

@Georgia Browns - and of course you've never tried to inflict your views on others?

You are a fucking hypocrite.

Despite what you think, I have no ego, as if you'd actually read some of my previous comments, you'd see I describe myself as incredibly average. Hardly the comments of an egotistical person. And self-righteous? Possibly. But telling someone to be a good little boy and go to bed? Who the fuck do you think you're talking to?

Honestly mate, concentrate on pulling pints and stay the fuck away from any music related matters.

# Posted by Ian - Rocking Horse - 05/04/2013, 02:55 (GMT)

then its up to the bass player to have his input.

Everyone gets an input in our band including the singer and drummer. Gimmie all your loving is fairly simple on the guitar too but playing 12 minute prog rock tunes isn't the answer for everyone Mark. And just because they don't want to go down that road does not make them lazy wankers. You have to accept that some people actually like it Mark. That may be an alien concept to you but its not the same for everyone. I am sure many people on here would baulk at the thought of playing Duran Duran. Personally I wouldn't mind, in fact I have played a lot of that stuff in the past but at the end of the day it wouldn't work slipping it into our set with the audiences we pull. So I try to get my kicks out of getting a tight groove going and doing a bit of fret wanking whenever we play something a little bit funky

I think there are quite a few bands on here Mark that cover The Who, The Chilli Peppers and Iron Maiden by the way

# Posted by 4most Wanted - 05/04/2013, 03:16 (GMT)

But, Ian, in my experience, bassists don't have an input. Certainly in my experience they don't.

Again, I spent years pandering to the fragile ego's of a few. But the minute I turned around and said, "Fuck it! What about something I want to do?", I usually found myself sacked for being "awkward" or "non-conforming".

So my rants are based on personal experiences, and not necessarily directed at anyone in particular, (well, probably some, and they know who they are), although it would appear, I am guilty of generalising.

# Posted by Miss J - 05/04/2013, 05:42 (GMT)

@ 4most wanted,

You keep goin about how much "Shite" is on here, there are probably a lot of people on here who would call Genesis "Shite" but they probably have respect for one another regardless of what music they play. Lets see if you have any balls, and actually tell us all who you regard as the "shite" on this site, i bet ya keep your mouth shut then wont ya?

# Posted by Asa - 05/04/2013, 08:33 (GMT)

@4most Wanted - I don't think anyone objects to you expressing your opinions. It's the way you are expressing them. All you're doing is offending people. Whether intentional or not, I don't think anyone appreciates it.

# Posted by ThatDawnOne - 05/04/2013, 09:59 (GMT)

I have been catching up on this blog at work and some of these comments have had me in stitches. I love watching grown adults squabbling and name calling, which is part of the reason I love my job. Thank you all for entertaining me this morning.

To answer one of Vankwish's original questions, I would like to see a Green Day tribute act playing in my local pub. Please can someone make this happen?

# Posted by Shotgun Sunday - 05/04/2013, 10:22 (GMT)

@Asa - spot on

# Posted by VANKWISH - 05/04/2013, 10:28 (GMT)

@ thatdawnone.

check out green haze on youtube. UK's leading Greenday tribute.



good point.

# Posted by ThatDawnOne - 05/04/2013, 10:49 (GMT)

@Vankwish Cheers, I'll have a look. They're one of the few bands that I'd love to watch an entire evening of someone performing their songs. One of the others being Foo Fighters (she says, as Gary anounces the demise of Best of Foo). As a punter, I tend to prefer the variety of a covers band but then I am quite fickle.

*futile attempt to get this blog back on topic*

# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 05/04/2013, 10:51 (GMT)

Haha fkn brilliant.


# Posted by [mark] Into The Void - 05/04/2013, 12:00 (GMT)

have had a darn good read here.....some lovely cyber fisticuffs again....so cool..

# Posted by Blag Sabbath - 05/04/2013, 12:10 (GMT)

Nearly forgot the actual topic.....

I prefer to play tribute bands myself, mainly because I find it a bit more challenging (for myself) to try and replicate and individuals style, tone etc. But having said that...I still like playing covers and also totally enjoy making my own basslines for the originals band too....I just enjoy playing in reality. :-)

# Posted by Debbie Lee - Alamo / Run For C... - 05/04/2013, 12:57 (GMT)

My god.. how did a harmless blog get so outta hand?? lol....

# Posted by spidermonkeys - 05/04/2013, 13:35 (GMT)

Whats happening on here recently this site is really going down the shitter

Is it that time of year again when the nwb's start tearing each other apart again?

Personally I agree with the above comments about enjoying what you do, and enjoying the bands youI watch (Tribute or covers) . If anyone doesnt enjoy what I do or the bands I go and watch then dont expose yourself to it......... Shimples


# Posted by Willow (of somebig™Fish) (Reti... - 05/04/2013, 14:51 (GMT)

Ha Ha ..... these are the best blogs on here by far.
I don't know what Mark 4 looks like but I've got a great mental image of him spewing a vile torrent of abuse all over his keyboard. Brilliant entertainment.
Long may it continue.


# Posted by 2 Minutes 2 Maiden (1980-1992 ... - 05/04/2013, 20:07 (GMT)

Wow thats some read,

I got asked by my manager at work the other day why we didn't tribute something more current like oasis or do general covers rather than doing just iron maiden. I answered that the reason is that 1 maiden are more current than oasis and still in existance, 2, we concentrate on perfecting a specific area of music and performance and that there is nothing "general" about us in this band and 3, that we aim at the metal/maiden fans who either aren't lucky enough to have seen them for real or are waiting for their next tour. We aim at maiden fans in the main and theres plenty of them around without needing to take the what could be seen as the commercial route of being a "general" covers just to get people to come.

The real reason i'm in a maiden tribute is because i'm a huge maiden fan who likes playing the stuff for the people who love it too. Simple as! Ive done general rock/metal and original covers/and now this. Each 1 aimed at a different audience!! .....each to their own and all that.

I have been into maiden since 83 when i was 6, i picked up the guitar at 13 to learn to play maiden and i'm now making some use of it. There are maiden fans literally everywhere and it works without having to step out of the maiden bubble i already live in without having to play anything i'm not a great lover of anymore like i did in other bands. When you can pull it off at gigs and its the most challenging stuff youve ever played while also the stuff i grew up on then whats not to like as a musician or a maiden fan?

The maiden fanbase is quite unique in its dedication and its scrutiny. (I am 1) But as the old saying goes, if u play it ...They will come! And do! As i would if i wasn't doing it and someone else was! Again, whats not to like?

Cover bands grab whoevers out for a pint while the guy out for a pint grabs whatever band is on. Tributes aim at a pretty specific audience and thats the difference really. Not who's better/worse etc.

Peace ;)

# Posted by Tex's bassbitch - 05/04/2013, 20:37 (GMT)

@ 2 minutes to reason. That makes complete sense to me, someone who didn't really understand the tribute thing. Nicely put.


# Posted by 2 Minutes 2 Maiden (1980-1992 ... - 05/04/2013, 21:53 (GMT)

Cheers les, also, in my experience its mainly the following that is different. In an originals/covers band you get all your mates as a following to start with, then the people who like your stuff start appearing at gigs as u go. in cover bands you travel to the people usually already there and gain a general following by being varied and in a tribute you set your stall, get the gig and then advertise to look for the people in the area who are looking for u and what u tribute and they then follow u if you're any good to their expectation. Thats kind of the outcome to each approach/ direction in the end from whichever u do but they are all very different things. No one is wrong taking any of the 3 approaches. It depends who you're reaching out to.


# Posted by 2 Minutes 2 Maiden (1980-1992 ... - 05/04/2013, 23:11 (GMT)

I'd done the covers / original ways but I thought our first tribute gig would be just a few maiden fans from around the area who'd spotted a poster and whoever was already a regular punter at the venue. (50 people ish) i advertised it a bit in shops etc and it seemed the maiden font on the poster alone got 153 people through the door in the end. (1st gig!) By the end the regulars were copying the wooahh parts with the people who knew all about maiden that had come out. This has actually happened since (even in a generally non rock venue on 1 occassion) its very surprising how many maiden fans are actually about and have even followed us around to the few gigs we've done. Admitedly tributes need to gig less than covers/original to keep interest up as it is "1 band" thats the only downfall if any. That and venues who can be scared to book 1 band tributes because they don't want to upset the regulars which leaves the potentially 30-40 maiden fans that don't go out but might for this just stay at home as usual. Again nothing wrong in playing safe booking general covers but it seems there are a lot of blinkers to what is potentially a good thing to get non regulars who may just like a certain band out rather than just regular drinkers who are already about town anyway band or no band. Now that does pose a debate there i must admit with that 1 as it could upset die hard regulars but it could make a good 1 off trade for each tribute at the same time for the venue. These are just my observations.

# Posted by 2 Minutes 2 Maiden (1980-1992 ... - 05/04/2013, 23:55 (GMT)

The funniest obvious difference between the 3 approaches is if an original band fluffs up not many even know the song and know no different and it passes, a covers band fluffs up and its noticed but by the next song they're just doing better and is now onto a different band and carrying on ok but a tribute fluffs up they've got fans of the original band down their neck with another 9 songs by the same people that u just messed up to go in front of those people down your neck if thigs go a little astray in a song.

Which is the biggest challenge in that respect? we do some spandex in ours to match the tribute. It's frightening as hell before we go on but it sure is fun when we get there. it is actually a lot bigger buzz for me than all my previous bands because you know a lot of the people watching may not be able to play an instrument but they know what you are supposed to be replicating inside and out :) ....is it all wrong?

# Posted by 2 Minutes 2 Maiden (1980-1992 ... - 05/04/2013, 23:57 (GMT)

I dont profess to be proffessional or massively well travelled but the dabbling i've done in each area has uncovered my above statements to me.

Its all gravy baby :)

# Posted by Tex's bassbitch - 06/04/2013, 00:14 (GMT)

Totally get what your saying Leigh, just never quite understood the whole concept but it obviously works.

Despite not quite getting it I've got no problems at all with tributes, in fact not long ago I auditioned and got offered the job with a fairly well established tribute, they're not on here but not far from your neck of the woods, but I had to knock it back when they sent the diary through, some nice theaters and such but not an awful lot of work in the diary, certainly not enough for the commitment required.

Guess it's just tough these days wherever you are in band land.

# Posted by 2 Minutes 2 Maiden (1980-1992 ... - 06/04/2013, 01:24 (GMT)

It is tough, yrs ago u could just say u were in a band and youd get a slot pretty much, these days its like blood out of a stone selling yourself. We've got 1 gig every 3 mnth at present which i admit isn't enough but 1 every 6 weeks would be about right for us because though you're not playing you're rehearsing and plugging the next 1 hoping it will give notice to make thie night very busy with maiden shirts when it comes around.. This obviously wouldn't do for a general covers band wanting a gig every week but in a 1 band tribute u can't gig in 1 town too often like u can in a covers band or you'll choke it. so its therefore gigging more widespread and more effort in the longvrun. Taking any approach to your act won't make u rich in this game but i think if any do its actually tributes that can if any to be honest if you can sustain the momentum to gig in various county's and make a name for ourselves among maiden fans. We're not aiming anywhere near those asperations and have no shame in saying it is 100% a hobby for me, but i can see how with effort it could possibly escalate countrywide by setting up our own gigs in various county's where we have friends and sending them the ads well beforehand that they could spread around for us to drag out all the maiden fans from the area and make our money back when we got there. (Ticketing would have to be arranged for on the night) Then next time round it grows and next time grows again. Etc. We are far too busy for that though (and maybe also not good enough) but that would be the way to go if we had the balls and time in daily life. At the min we're spreading out of the area but not with as much push as we could if we went for it and set up our own gigs in cheap function rooms. Again day jobs stop that for us or i'd be onto my mate in exeter who has many contacts in exeter, bath and dorset for a starters haha, and mates in doncaster and sheffield and hitchen. sadly thats not in our ability due to work commitments. its all swings and roundabouts and we can only branch out to a limit. Different things need different workings whatever u do but i certainly wouldn't say any of it was wrong.

# Posted by pnoone200387 - 07/04/2013, 00:28 (GMT)

I've been following @4mostwanteds career for all of 5 minutes reading this thread and already and ironically HE is the most boring , predictable musician I've ever come across .

You must have to strain your eyes from your ivory tower to see the rest of us .

Oh and I can't wait for your arena world tour AND autobiography .

# Posted by The Cheating Hearts - 07/04/2013, 00:38 (GMT)

Arrived a little late to this blog. Who is this 4most guy? Just checked his repertoire out and I think I can see what he's driving at.

Some real groundbreaking stuff in there, man - I mean, Snow Patrol, Pink Floyd, Eric Clapton...

Oh, and Aerosmith

Woohoo. Respect is due.


# Posted by [mark] Into The Void - 07/04/2013, 19:17 (GMT)

Just been playing catch up and having a good old read.....and a laugh......one thing sticks in my craw a tad........

I won't cut and paste cos a) can't be arsed and b) always think people who do that are a bit sinister and way too determined to prove their point than is healthy. The gist of the conversation was regarding bass lines in rock being boring........

OK......I love playing all forms of rock and have done for many years, have played loads of stuff from AC/DC to yes, prog rock, punk rock, classic rock, 80s pop.... you name it I have played it.....and I have, with 1 or 2 notable exceptions, never played a full bassline as it was recorded.

Have never had he desire to get so anal about the 3rd bar of the 2nd chorus featuring an 8th note rest on beat 3 of the bar as opposed to straight 8s the 1st time round... cos it doesn't matter one jot to them out front, they are in the main interested purely in the vocals and the feel of the backing music.... To imply anything else is to be seriously deluded and also implies you have delusions of grandeur about your role in proceedings.

So basically it is what you make it, or what you want it to be. Most music is multi tracked to some degree, example hysteria by def leppard, doa covered it with 2 guitars and bass n drums....the recorded version featured allegedly 64 guitar tracks! That gives a helluva lotta room for manouver from boring bass lines to imply the recording....

Back to the thread...... I hate with a passion, the same old same old, but I think calling anybody who plays it is way too strong....... smacks of "I'm better than you" attitude which ain't good...... I would, quite rightly, feel like a twat if I ever belittled someone else's bass playing......

As for the topic of the thread, tributes I don't mind so long as there is some of the muso's personality in there and some liberties taken even once in a while.....if its too perfect its a bit freaky. If I want to hear thin Lizzy "live and dangerous" I'll put the CD, or even better, the LP on. If I want a 'night' of thin lizzys music I will go and watch black rose.

And cherry picking summat else that was mentioned regarding satisfaction gained from playing, I bet I had more satisfaction playing genesis "I can't dance" with an ad libbed level 42 baseline than genesis ever did, albeit for slightly less money than they generated.

Anyhow gotta stop there, Sunday Bacardi kicking in with a vengeance!

# Posted by ThatDawnOne - 07/04/2013, 23:31 (GMT)

Just got in from watching Rocking Horse at the Talbot. They played a couple of songs that '90% of boring covers bands' were being slated for earlier in this blog, yet people were up dancing and someone came over when I was talking to Ian and Glynn in the break to tell them that they were 'fucking outstanding, mate'. Sometimes it's not what you play, but how you play it.

I did like the dedication of 'Wishing Well' to a certain person who couldn't be there though. Ian, I might have been the only person in the room who got that reference but it cracked me up.

# Posted by ..... - 08/04/2013, 01:30 (GMT)

4most - regardless of how you feel or think, you should have toned it down.

In my experience the guys that can actual play to a good/high standard would agree with you, with regards to the limitations of the current rock indie set lists and will have no doubt played all of those numbers for many years and like you are bored or even hate them.

The catch is what you'd class as a good/high standard musician ? A true musician has a couple of common trates -

1) never stops learning and cant function in life without music
2) adapts what's learned from one style and applies in another
3) is always looking for a challenge
4) gets fustrated easly with others who can't do it
5) able to play very accurate note for note, beat for beat, tone and feel.
6) able to understand not just their parts (instrument) but the rest of the bands and how the parts or arrangement fits together - this being the most COMMON diffence between Shit, Crap, Poor, OK'ish, OK, Not Bad, Good'ish, Good, Well Played, Very Good, Oustanding, Blew me away - to I'm going to burn my guitar and never play again !!

I've seen a few bands off this site who claim and talk like they are Good or above, even with others posting compliments back. Quite frankly they all sound (apart from one band) like a "School Boy" band just learning their instruments to me.

But that's a hash statement for me to say, after all it a web site that mixes different abilities from amature to semi-pro and people who do it for fun and some for a weekly wage.

My point is live music at amature level (pubs) is dead. It is driven by the last of the pub go'ers who generally stay in their comfort zone on a friday or saturday night and not musically interested (not matter what they tell you they are about music wise) Since those that want to hear music performed and played very well, will pay on the door and wont be interested in listening to the same sets lists from the pub down the road.

Landlords are dictated to by their regular punters, only a brave landlord would put a Northern Soul Band on in Wigan......probably get the place burnt down...'cos who the fuck would want to listen to Northern Soul when you can listen to Bad Company ACDC Stones or Thin Lizzy !!

Bored now..good night..

# Posted by THE STORIES ,The very best! of... - 08/04/2013, 02:12 (GMT)

Hi everyone how"s it going lol! .
Gotta remember NWBs is a fantastic bands site & everyone has the freedom of speech on here & in our god forsaken country .
Tribute bands ! what"s the problem ? ,I have seen many a great tribute band ,they are a way of people seeing the band they love be it Robbie ,Take that ,The who etc who some people can"t afford to pay to watch & ok in the end its all to do with that big word called NOSTALGIA & people love it & I love it & a lot of great bands have passed buy that people would have loved to have seen play live eg Trex & so on & so on .
We have been gigging over 7 years & played over hundreds & hundreds gigs of gigs & not had a problem with other bands,we started as a punk /ska covers band & also included hits of the day "I predict a riot ","song 2 " etc until it came to a point where we had to say "hey guys we do what we do & that's punk rock & ska from 1976-81 & we do it really well & authentic as it comes so we"ll stick to it & become a tribute act " & its going very well thank you .
Now I/we do not see any difference or put it another way any resentment towards any other band be it covers or tribute bands because we are all musicians & all in the same boat .
@4 most unwanted ...never bite the hand that feeds .

# Posted by MOTHERS RUIN - 08/04/2013, 02:47 (GMT)


heres a pic of 4Most whinging in my ear n falling asleep while doing his Purple Rain bassline .....!!!! ;-)

# Posted by ThatDawnOne - 08/04/2013, 16:44 (GMT)

@Ian.... Never mind that, what ARE you wearing? :)

Dawn x

# Posted by [mark] Into The Void - 08/04/2013, 16:48 (GMT)

Ian in cross dressing shocker!!!!

# Posted by Rock Hard - 08/04/2013, 19:28 (GMT)

# Posted by ThatDawnOne - 08/04/2013, 19:45 (GMT)

@Mark That's no shocker... (Ian regularly accuses me of being a right lush so it's good to get a bit of retaliation in for a change) x

# Posted by 12Adam - 25/04/2013, 13:29 (GMT)

I've not read much of this, someone made a comment ( something like ) 'oh no not another covers band doing the same songs we hear at every covers band'...

Perhaps if a few more bands 'read between the lines' and looked at the NWB top 100 gigged songs, did a couple of those and then raided their CD collection for inspiration? Fair enough not every member of your band will like the same things, the audience may not like 'every' song you do BUT you can't be slated for being 'just another covers band'...

I've now hidden away in a corner, fearing all sorts of comments, beastings, etc....

# Posted by 12Adam - 25/04/2013, 13:33 (GMT)

As for tribute bands, if they CAN pull it off, there's nothing wrong with it...

For instance I am too young to have seen Thin Lizzy with Phil Lynott. I'll have to suffer not being born early enough and watch a tribute band instead; like all bands if they can pull off 2 sets of well performed songs that's surely why people go to see them (provided they are your thing).

# Posted by 12Adam - 25/04/2013, 13:35 (GMT)

Also (inspired by a comment by the stories...) what is a 'tribute act'?

Is it one that pays homage to one particular artist?

Or one particular genre?

Answers on a postcard to my aforementioned corner, far far away.....

# Posted by 12Adam - 25/04/2013, 13:45 (GMT)

(....yes I'm back)

Asking about covers

Does anyone have any songs, originally released by one artist, that have been covered by a second, where they prefer the cover. For instance The Beatles, With A Little Help. I prefer Joe Cocker's...

# Posted by 12Adam - 25/04/2013, 14:02 (GMT)

Question for landlords / managers ( whoever books the bands )

If you're in a position to have 2 ( or more ) bands on in a week, has the thought crossed your mind of having one night for 'one act' tribute bands, then another for 'general' covers bands?

Please discuss......
....without getting het up, if at all possible

# Posted by John Wilkinson: - 25/04/2013, 14:25 (GMT)

Hi Adam

A tribute band tends to play songs by ONE artist or band (although in Mama we do a couple of Genesis solo artist songs)

Nothing wrong with being in any band, be it covers, orginal or "tribute".

Personally I don't like the word "tribute" as it has gathered certain connotations over the years. I much prefer a term that was given to us............ "Copy Band"

All tribute bands are in effect cover bands in my opinion

Best wishes


# Posted by ThatDawnOne - 25/04/2013, 16:09 (GMT)

@Adam "Does anyone have any songs, originally released by one artist, that have been covered by a second, where they prefer the cover. For instance The Beatles, With A Little Help. I prefer Joe Cocker's..."

Sounds like a topic for an entirely diferent blog. Funnily enough, I was thinking exactly the same thing last week. Sinead O'Connor's 'Nothing Compares 2 U' is a classic example of someone taking the original and improving it beyond recognition. Same with The Byrds' version of 'Mr Tambourine Man' and Bryan Ferry's cover of 'Jealous Guy'...(just my opinion of course).


# Posted by 12Adam - 25/04/2013, 17:49 (GMT)

Yes, it's probably in the wrong place, but at least that's changed the tone of the thread....

# Posted by Invane - 29/05/2013, 11:37 (GMT)

I'd kill to see a half decent Alice in Chains tribute band (Pre Layne's death ofc)

I'd love to do one too, but unfortunately, as much as my voice has the part of Layne, i'm about 7inches taller and probably 4 stone heavier than he was haha

# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 27/06/2013, 08:27 (GMT)

Good point with the 'Tambourine Man' Dawn, brilliant track. Id never heard of Dylan when I first heard that, mind you, i was only a young teenage whippersnapper then, pissed off 1 pint.

So I suppose you could you call the Byrds a Dylan Trib act.


# Posted by ThatDawnOne - 27/06/2013, 09:21 (GMT)

@Tel I wasn't born then... *runs*

# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 27/06/2013, 09:40 (GMT)

Kinell didn't think youd see this.

# Posted by ThatDawnOne - 27/06/2013, 09:55 (GMT)

I see everything, busy at work y'see. Plus am stalking you...

# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 27/06/2013, 10:05 (GMT)

Its ok by me chuck, stork me all you like. Apologies to Marc for blogjacking


# Posted by ThatDawnOne - 27/06/2013, 10:58 (GMT)

@Tel How about a starting a Hayseed Dixie tribute band? You'd need to grow your beard and learn some AC/DC songs though.

# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 27/06/2013, 11:12 (GMT)

I think HD are already a tribute band, they should be doing a Wagontown trib.


# Posted by ThatDawnOne - 27/06/2013, 11:20 (GMT)

Nobody else is crazy enough to sing Christmas songs in June though :)

# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 27/06/2013, 11:27 (GMT)

It was Christmas eve babe, in the drunk tank. An old man said to me, wont see another one.....

The old man could be right.

They love it ...... I saw you singing some of the words anyway.


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