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Dave Grohl takes no shit...

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Posted By : Drum Bloke™ - that bloke that drums | Comments : 49

Got to hand it to Mr Grohl


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# Posted by viking - 14/07/2011, 21:15 (GMT)

way to go, dude!! i reckon every band should have alyerpal make a big f.o. sign that quotes those words, put it up with the backdrop.!! :-)


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# Posted by Tubthumper - 14/07/2011, 21:23 (GMT)

Something tells me if we tried that at any of our gigs it wouldn't turn out quite so well. I fear the pissed up punters of the North West lack that kind of reverence. But hell, I'll try anything once, at least I'm barricaded in behind a drum kit and can probably decapitate trouble makers with my A Customs.


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# Posted by Asa - 14/07/2011, 21:27 (GMT)

I'm a massive massive Grohl fan. But a little piece of me died when I saw this. I accept I'm probably in the minority.


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# Posted by Asa - 14/07/2011, 21:34 (GMT)

Josh Homme on the other hand.....

&NR=1


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# Posted by Fitz - 14/07/2011, 21:35 (GMT)

Hey, he's not Don King! Want's folks to have fun at the gig, and not have someone beat the sh!t out of them for throwing a few dodgy shapes!...Fair play I say!


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# Posted by viking - 14/07/2011, 21:36 (GMT)

@ tubthumper-unfortunately, you're probably right- is good to see that someone with that kind of standing is speaking out against the prats, though-is sending a message to the real fans that it is totally unacceptable behaviour, methinks?

@ st-why-what is it that you feel is amiss there? ;-D


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# Posted by Alyerpal - 14/07/2011, 21:39 (GMT)

My respect for Mr Grohl has just gone up another notch: with that and the new album; what a guy!

'Smoke him a kipper....'

AYP


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# Posted by Asa - 14/07/2011, 21:43 (GMT)

@Viking - Call me old fashioned, but you're on stage to entertain not to police the gig. Shut up and crack on with the gig. It's not difficult to act hard on a stage behind a row of bouncers. Still a massive Grohl fan, but can't see why he had to get involved. Just saying.


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# Posted by The Villains - 14/07/2011, 21:46 (GMT)

He's the man, standing up for people and looking out for people is the right thing to do and just shows what a great fella he is


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# Posted by viking - 14/07/2011, 21:51 (GMT)

@ st- ah! i take your point, dude-but-don't star performers such as mr grohl and others have a responsability to let their fans know that, as far as they are concerned, any violent or disruptive behaviour is to be frowned upon. i wouldn't say it's being "hard"-more using the influence he has to ensure that the real fans don't have their enjoyment of the gig ruined by a mindless few-as can often be the case-as any band on here can, probably testify to? would that more big names did it, in my opinion. :-D


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# Posted by Mick (ex Bad Horsie) - 14/07/2011, 21:55 (GMT)

Asa, I'd have done at LEAST what Grohl did. If people paid good money to see the band and some knobhead decides to kick off, the best way to deal with it is involve everyone in the room. Don't just get the dick thrown out. Humiliate the fucker in the process. That way everyone remembers the fight but also remembers the band doing something about it and bringing them all in as part of it. At the very least it's brilliant word of mouth marketing. At best it's a nice guy getting pissed off at a show where he really wants everyone to have a good time.


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# Posted by Asa - 14/07/2011, 21:56 (GMT)

@Viking - I can see where you're coming from. I did say I would probably be in the minority. Where does it stop though? And surely it takes two people to fight, so why did the other guy get away? And what if Dave Grohl got it wrong and fingered the wrong guy? He's been kicked out for nothing. Let the venue police. Let the band entertain.


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# Posted by viking - 14/07/2011, 22:10 (GMT)

@ st- i think it stops when enough people in a position to exert positive influence speak out against the dickheads, violence merchants and chavs who try to make the lives of the rest a misery or frightened to move in case some thug doesn't like the length/colour/style of one's hair, clothes/the way one dances/talks/breathes.......and i'm ranting, aren't i??? ;-/

genuine point, though-and valid too, methinks? ;-)


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# Posted by Asa - 14/07/2011, 22:13 (GMT)

@Viking - so in order to stop thugs, we must act like thugs? Bad precedent IMHO. I would have had more respect if he'd just stopped and then carried on when it was sorted. And yes, I realise the hypocrisy having posted Josh Homme threatening to beat the shit out of someone lol


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# Posted by LAST GANG IN TOWN - 14/07/2011, 22:16 (GMT)

Perspective please...nobody on here saw the start or cause of the so called fight...could have been an innocent FF fan catching someone with his hand in his pocket or pissing up his back or anything...the guy in stripes could have been the victim and could have been fully justified in his retaliation...could also just have been a drunken 'motherfucker'...we don't know do we...so how can we judge ???
Typical 'I'm an American on TV' hero stance by 'Big' Dave...
In our 'Punk' career we've only witnesses one 'proper' fight in an audience and we just played on and let the venue sort it out...ironically we were playing White Riot at the time...motherfucker.


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# Posted by Mick (ex Bad Horsie) - 14/07/2011, 22:18 (GMT)

Dealing with a thug isn't always acting like a thug. If you make a decision to protect those around you from violent individuals by dealing with them using direct force, that does not lower you to their level.


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# Posted by Steve Blease - 14/07/2011, 22:19 (GMT)

I went to see Avenged Sevenfold earlier this year and some twat threw a large boot at Corey Taylors face. He just managed to knock it away and carry on singing. I just can't understand what kind of a whores hole would do that. What's the point? I bet if the crowed slapped holy shit out of them they's kinda think twice next time.


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# Posted by Asa - 14/07/2011, 22:26 (GMT)

@Mick - I also posted Josh Homme going mental at someone. But at least he was directly involved in that someone threw something at him. Perhaps I just took offence to Dave giving it the "big man" act when I'd hoped that he would be above all that.


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# Posted by viking - 14/07/2011, 22:33 (GMT)

@ bad horsie (mick)-correct, bro.

@ st-speaking out against thugs can in no way shape or form be considered acting like a thug. certainly in this instance it is the case-we didn't see the incident as you point out-therefore could it not be that grohl actually alerted the venue's security to the incident and they dealt with it? i would also challenge your assertion that grohl is acting "the big man"-it could (rightly, in my view) be just that he was pissed off that his gig was being disrupted in that way-as you would, methinks.

@: lgit-why is it a "so called fight"?? - either it was or it wasn't. grohl certainly seemed to think it was- and he had a far better view than any of us (or the venue security). i'm sure, if the white stripes guy was innocent he could find witnesses to back him up??

any way-i stand by my first comments on the general need for someone in a position of influence to start taking a positive stand against the chavs and thugs.


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# Posted by Mick (ex Bad Horsie) - 14/07/2011, 22:40 (GMT)

Asa, I get what you mean. It was a bit "hey you! Yes you! Behind the bouncers", but I still think he managed it well for the people at that gig. He didn't really do the big man "I'm going to kick your ass" thing. I'm not a big Foo Fighters fan, but I know from back in the early days they commit themselves to putting on a great show and really want people to enjoy themselves. What I saw in that was (yes there's the devils advocate "who started it" stuff. Don't care.) the frontman making it plain that the fighter wasn't welcome at their gig. Most of that audience would be non aggressive individuals, which is the way we are. How many of them would be enraged or offended to see Mr Fighty ejected from the show?


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# Posted by Drum Bloke™ - that bloke that... - 14/07/2011, 22:42 (GMT)

LGIT - Yeah your right about the American attitude, but I think it would take good reason for a song to get stopped.

Tubthumper - Your right you would not do that with out the 6ft stage gap between you and the crowd filled with Showsec guy's. I did gig at the Bike and Hound coulpe of years back , in the mddle of a Motorhead songwhen two very large bikers who were dancing at first turned on each other a few punches went in. We carried on hoping it would not erupt, they were parted by there mates and shook hands before we ended the tune...

Steve Blease - Think your hit the nail there Steve. I reckon it was a bit of pressure showing there, The Foo's have been full on it for ten years, Maybe Grohl is begining to feel the strain ?

I remember watching an old clip of the police playing a gig in France, someone in the audience spat on sting and you could see Sting was furious and following this guy, launching all manners of expletives at him at the edge of the stage and trying to do 'parity'...


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# Posted by Asa - 14/07/2011, 22:42 (GMT)

@Viking - I'm all for taking a positive stand against chavs and thugs. However, your comment "i'm sure, if the white stripes guy was innocent he could find witnesses to back him up??" is a bit niave. I suspect the bloke didn't get much of an opportunity to assemble his witnesses as he was on his way out, assisted by the bouncers lol

I can see why some people think Dave did a good thing. I just think it's better for everyone concerned if the band sticks to entertaining. It's just an opinion.


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# Posted by Drum Bloke™ - that bloke that... - 14/07/2011, 22:46 (GMT)

... if the band sticks to entertaining. It's just an opinion.

True ST.

To an extent...

I never could understand that story of why the musicians continued playing on deck whilst the Titanic was sinking ;)


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# Posted by Alyerpal - 14/07/2011, 22:49 (GMT)

Is it not the case that when you are on stage infront of (?)thousand people who each paid upwards of £30 a ticket to see you, you are 'a big man' and have not only the influence, but the responsibility to do something if you see a fight happening in the audience?

We all know that the the 'security' at these places is laughable at best, and bigger thugs than anyone else at worst, so even bigger respect to Dave Grohl for looking out for other people.

The really bad thing about our society at the moment isthe 'let someone else sort it out' syndrome.

You know, 'oh look, they're picking on him', 'it's nowt to do with me, let the police deal with it'.....

Don't forget, the security, the police, the army are only people like us.......

AYP


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# Posted by Mick (ex Bad Horsie) - 14/07/2011, 22:50 (GMT)

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I never could understand that story of why the musicians continued playing on deck whilst the Titanic was sinking ;)"

I've known some pretty hard bouncers, but not sure if any of them could stop an iceberg getting in without a tie ;o)


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# Posted by TEX & THE HARDCORE TROUBAD... - 14/07/2011, 22:57 (GMT)

Ok, who would win in a fight, Josh Homme or Dave Grohl ???
like if there was a kickoff fer slaggin off each others surnames ;-P

Tex Sides


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# Posted by Tubthumper - 14/07/2011, 22:58 (GMT)

The band's conductor, Wallace Hartley, was a Colner. It was, according to historic accounts an attempt to bring a semblance of calm. An acceptance of the inevitability of the ship sinking. I think it was profoundly heroic myself.

But then I also think it's heroic to take on troublemakers whatever the situation. If I was at a gig, however famous the artist may be, and things were kicking off around me in an environment where I was sandwiched in between dozens or hundreds of other people with little means of escape and the band carried playing on knowing full well what was going on (and with no guarantee that whatever security was in place knew of the kerfuffle) I would think they were irresponsible twats. Or cowards.


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# Posted by Drum Bloke™ - that bloke that... - 14/07/2011, 23:05 (GMT)

# Posted by Tubthumper - 14/07/2011, 22:58 (GMT)

...an attempt to bring a semblance of calm.

I can believe that too !! Early 1900's Psyche .. eeeh I don't know eh..

Yes that and shooting 3rd class passengers who tried to get into the 1st class life boats, well that's what happend in the film anyway.. :) Or did it ? Am I thinking of ConAir ?

tIme For bED ZebeDEE.


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# Posted by Asa - 14/07/2011, 23:10 (GMT)

If I pay £30 plus to see someone, I want them playing. Not managing the crowd. And if you think you're a "big man" in front of thousands of people....that's your ego talking.

No one is saying ignore it. Just let people do what they are there to do.


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# Posted by TEX & THE HARDCORE TROUBAD... - 14/07/2011, 23:14 (GMT)

I'd gladly pay £30 fer a Dave Grohl n Josh Homme scrap !!!
Tex ;-)


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# Posted by Asa - 14/07/2011, 23:16 (GMT)

Me too Tex. My money would be on Josh Homme.


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# Posted by Mick (ex Bad Horsie) - 14/07/2011, 23:18 (GMT)

Different strokes I guess. I'd have loved to have been there. :o)


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# Posted by TEX & THE HARDCORE TROUBAD... - 14/07/2011, 23:19 (GMT)

maybe Asa but me mam would twat em both !!!! pmsl ;-)


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# Posted by Asa - 14/07/2011, 23:22 (GMT)

Ha ha ha ha. Goes without saying Tex.


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# Posted by Stu - 15/07/2011, 00:22 (GMT)

i think the ginger giant would kick most people's ass to be fair Tex


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# Posted by LAST GANG IN TOWN - 15/07/2011, 00:40 (GMT)

Big 'V'...I take your point Sir but I know it's not easy to pick out individuals in a crowd when you're on stage with the lights in your eyes...all seems a bit 'stage managed' to me...but how can we call the guy a thug without knowing all the facts...Big John Wayne, er sorry Dave Grohl cannot have seen what caused the 'fight' but singled out only one of the people involved...anyway, it's only opinions stated without facts...don't know why we're all arguing over this...


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# Posted by The Extras - 15/07/2011, 10:15 (GMT)

Has all the hallmarks of that WWW wrestling. All show and no drawers. He's an educated man Grohly why does he have to say the "mother" word so often. Definitely part of the act. They are a top band no need for all that showbiz crap....CJ


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# Posted by MICK NASH - 15/07/2011, 10:28 (GMT)

Best reaction to stage missiles I ever saw was Dave Lee Roth with Van Halen (Donnington 1985), when a plastic bottle hit him and he stopped the band and said "I saw who threw that...and after the show...I'm gonna come down there...and fuck your girlfriend!"
Brilliant!
Got everybody laughing, de-fused the situation, no bad vibes, no sucking up to the audience etc.
Did the guy who was fighting at the Foo Fighters gig leave? We don't know. As for Josh Homme, he'd have looked a twat if the kid could have got onto the stage and said "go on then Josh...kick me in the face" which wouldn't happen because of the security so Josh can come on all 'hard-case' in the circumstances.
MN


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# Posted by Synthy Mike - 15/07/2011, 12:48 (GMT)

Dave Lee Roth's reaction is definately the best way to deal with it. Josh Homme comes across as a bit of a bully. It reminded me of Bruce Dickinson at Download the other year. They were launching into a song and he shouts "STOP! STOP!! Someone threw an egg at me!" (in a voice oddly reminicent of skeletor). Plus surely that's carte blanche for more missle throwing mischief makers?

I think Dave Grohl's stance was rather nice, you can get idiots at gigs causing trouble. I think he may have taken it a bit far and ranted a bit but I wouldn't be happy seeing a fight at one of my band's gigs. It's not nice.


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# Posted by James - Metalleeka + AC/DCe - 15/07/2011, 13:34 (GMT)

Stevie Nicks stopped a Fleetwood Mac concert at the MEN arena due to a fight breaking out.
Its gotta be quite distracting for those around and the band themselves.. in some circumstances it may add to the atmosphere but in this case clearly not.


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# Posted by Synthy Mike - 15/07/2011, 13:52 (GMT)

A fight at a Fleetwood Mac gig?!!!!!!


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# Posted by James - Metalleeka + AC/DCe - 15/07/2011, 14:08 (GMT)

in a GOLD premium ticket seated section of the MEN nonetheless.. takes allsorts..


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# Posted by Synthy Mike - 15/07/2011, 14:17 (GMT)

Though I can imagine after a few beers a die-hard Peter Green fan and someone who obsessed about Tango in the Night could possibly end up coming to blows discussing the merits of "Man of the World" vs "Little Lies".


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# Posted by [mark] Into The Void - 15/07/2011, 14:22 (GMT)

Was at donnington ... many many many moons ago .... Tommy Vance was DJing on stage when a bottle of piss exploded next to him .... he had a proper pissy fit ..."Next one of those comes near me and Im off this stage! you will have to wait for Status Quo in silence!!" ... the audience had been suitably admonished........

Cue what i can only describe as a maelstrom (or hailstorm) of plastic bottles flying towards dear old tommy V..... one in particular landed on his turntable and covered him in whatever it contained..... Off he toddled!! at least he was true to his word.

Quo came on and Francis Rossi says down the mic "How are you then alrrrrriiiiighhhttt? You lot throw like girls!!" Ha ha ha ha him and parfitt were dodging missiles for the rest of the gig!


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# Posted by Drum Bloke™ - that bloke that... - 15/07/2011, 19:40 (GMT)

# Posted by MICK NASH - 15/07/2011, 10:28 (GMT)

Best reaction to stage missiles I ever saw was Dave Lee Roth with Van Halen (Donnington 1985), when a plastic bottle hit him and he stopped the band and said "I saw who threw that...and after the show...I'm gonna come down there...and fuck your girlfriend!"

Who threw it Eddie Van Halen ? ;)



(Based on a rumour for reason DLR was asked to leave VH...)


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# Posted by viking - 15/07/2011, 21:31 (GMT)

@ lgit- again-agree-we can't call "white stripe guy" a "thug" without knowing all the facts-however-my last comment was a generic one in the light of a seemingly growing minority of people today who apparently find pleasure in causing trouble and violence, at gigs and in the street or pubs, to the detriment of those of us who only want to go out and use our precious leisure time in the pursuit of rest and relaxation and enjoy those things that we do-peacefully!!. (my- isn't it good to have a civillised debate?? lol!!)

@ st-if there is one thing i have not been for many a year, dude, it is "naive" lol!! my point is-had i been in that situation (where i was the "victim" rather than the aggressor) i would have made sure that the security had checked on my story - failing that it would have become a police matter. the sooner we all take a "zero tolerance" approach to the idiots (at whatever level) the sooner we can all enjoy life at a better quality, methinks.


whenver i see or hear of incidents of this type i hear two words in my head "sophie lancaster". that, unfortunately, is what some sections of society have become-due in part, i believe, to a general lack of "good people" speaking out against .



as alyerpal rightly says-we seem to have become a society of "it's someone else's problem" (for many reasons) and to see someone (especially someone in grohl's position) make a stand (however ineptly/clumsily/self agrandising) is, i reckon, to be applauded.

pretty much everyone cheered when they saw the chavs being punished by the two "cross dressed" kick boxers and the guy at the door of his house drop the moronic chav there-in what way is this different?


i say again-"way to go, mr grohl" (and josh homme -whoever he might be!! lol!!) ;-D


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# Posted by Drum Bloke™ - that bloke that... - 15/07/2011, 22:17 (GMT)

mmmm..Josh Homme comes across as a bit psychotic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXQlKz7kYbo
Take your pick seem like a catalouge of outburst here...


I prefer Nice Dave...


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# Posted by viking - 16/07/2011, 11:27 (GMT)

@ drum bloke-yeah-'suppose he does-however-i'm slowly but surely reaching the conclusion that, sometimes, a bit of "psychotic" does no harm if it's in the face of mindless thuggery and it scares the bejeepers out of it?? and-perhaps-one day- "fans" of l'homme monsieur homme (see what i did there?) might just get the message that you don't kick off at his gigs without some sort of payback? :-D


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# Posted by spase kadet - 19/07/2011, 00:30 (GMT)

if he got the right dood and not someone defending himself then well done


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